I believe that l will from now on, identify as a ‘none.’ I can’t see myself ever attending a building that claims to be a church again.
Those denomination’s that claim that Martin Luther is their founder and mentor are not even about Martin Luther as they claim. The effectiveness of using force to create change versus reward to induce changes in belief and behavior, shows how significant percentages of people will actually change their political ideology among other things. In others words, if the pastor/cult leader manipulates the congregation to keep repeating mindless songs and ridiculous liturgies often enough, the congregation will finally believe what they are saying and the pastor becomes their god. “Public compliance,” according to Festinger, will produce a “subsequent change in private opinion.
For example, there is an entirely different approach to religion when saying to the congregation, “The Lord be with you,” and the congregation responding, “And also with you,” versus the pastor shouting, “Praise the Lord,” and the congregation shouting back, “Alleluia!”
“Do specific language codes have an influence on the thinking process? In principle, they can, and in certain instances they do. It’s been proven.
Luther Fought against the Changes in the Catholic Church:
And yet those who resist the changes and innovations of contemporary worship promoted by district Church Growth cult leaders are portrayed as ignorant, legalistic, and backward. Ironically, those who promote the changes in worship will claim Luther, the Reformer, as their mentor, when Luther’s entire career was actually aimed at stopping the changes and innovations promoted by the Catholic Church. For example: Lutheran churches have redone all of Luther’s work and applying apologetics to most of his work, veiws, books, statements and etc, even going so far to say that they reject this or that from Luther.
Luther says, “Who alone wants to recount the new kinds of saint veneration? Are not these innovations? Where were bishops and shouters who should not permit such innovations?”
“Here again, there was no one who could decry or even point out innovation. But Luther, who exposes and chastises such innovations, is [called] an innovator!”
“Even at that, the doctors in the universities helped along. They had nothing else to do than to devise new ‘opinions,’ one after another. One could not be a doctor with special honors unless one has brought forth something new.”
“But who stood up against innovations?”… For such shameless violation is not to be tolerated that whatever you choose must be known as an innovation and what you do not so choose must not be called an innovation.”
“It does not help you to pretend that one should do nothing new or change anything, for you have heard that this article is a novelty and that it is you who have unceasingly introduced false innovations and changes in Christendom. What is change according to God’s Word is no innovation. All customs must yield to it, no matter how good they may be, your own law says.”
Where was the vote in the Synodical Convention that gave district offices the right to encourage pastors to remove hymn books and the use of hymn books from their congregations? Here one must also note the total lack of examination and cavalier attitude by those who introduce changes into LCMS worship services and say, “There is nothing in the Bible that says we can’t make this change.” What about the LCMS Lutheran congratulations that use their choice of any bible they choose, then placing a bulk within the church for all members to use?
The moment one who exposes and chastises such innovations, as Martin Luther did is [called] an innovator(like Luther was called), a rebel, one who despiseshttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2950242198528461&id=2253944324824922&sfnsn=mo the preaching or says, “This is what worship must do or be,” the district office hollers “Adiaphora!” and the one who resists change is labled a legalist, an innovator. One definition does hold in the Church Growth cult, “Worship exists for the benefit of the cult leader.”
Read in Pro 24:21, My son, fear thou the Lord and the king: [and] meddle not with them that are given to change: 24:22 For their calamity shall rise suddenly; and who knoweth the ruin of them both?
God cannot deny Himself, that is, God cannot not be God.
The District Church Growth cult leaders have adopted the religion of nihilism and self destruction. If the definition of “A” is that “A” is free to change, then “A” actually never existed and has no real definition. Hence, so-called “traditional worship” never existed because it never had any real purpose or reason to exist.
Traditional worship as reformers overcame hurdles to make it possible again more than likely has never existed in the United States, although these churches claim, traditional worship.
So-called “contemporary worship” does not exist because it has no definition. The freedom to change worship and still call it worship means that “traditional” worship only existed as a matter of free choice or accident, and there is nothing to prevent it from changing. Hence, all Christian worship is a matter of random selection or accident. Worship exists in the fantasy of the worshipper without any basis in reality.
The LCMS, in my opinion tends to be ever changing. Also there are many examples where they state, that they take no stance on certain social issues, instead of following God’s Word.
There may be no perfect body of believers that get it all right but there are some that chooses to stick to the Word of God instead of man-made creeds, statements and guidelines.
I will never judge another as to where their soul will spend eternity. This whole world is filled with God’s creation from different cultures and areas of the world that are strange to another. So what gives me or anyone else the right to judge or assume that just because my culture is strange to them and they don’t perceive thing’s as I do that they’re going to hell? NO, GOD IS THE JUDGE AND HE LOVES US THAT HE’D RATHER NOT HAVE ANYONE PERISH!
25 Luecke, Dr. David, “The Other Story of Lutherans at Worship,” Community Joy, Fellowship Ministries, Tempe, Arizona, 1995, page 6.
26 “Luther’s Works” American Edition, Muhlenberg Press, Philadelphia, 1960, Vol. 34, Page 24
27 ibid., p. 25
28 ibid., p. 27
29 ibid., p. 29
30 ibid., p. 39
31 ibid., p. 39
“It has been my experience that I am always true from my point of view, but am often wrong from the point of view of my honest critics. I know that we are both right from our respective points of view. And this knowledge saves me from attributing motives to my opponents or critics. The seven blind men who gave seven different descriptions of the elephant were all right from their respective points of view, and wrong from the point of view of one another, and right and wrong from the point of view of the man who knew the elephant. I very much like this doctrine of the manyness of reality. It is this doctrine that has taught me to judge a Mussalman from his own standpoint and a Christian from his. Formerly I used to resent the ignorance of my opponents. Today I can love them because I am gifted with the eye to see myself as others see them and vice-versa.”
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
Tags: christianity, christians, jesus-christ #cults
#videos LCMS Church gets angry over black woman sitting in their lawn.
Very Temperamental pastor, Steven Anderson
Alex Marshall-Brown was mistreated at St Pauls Lutheran Church LCMS at https://stpaulsfirst.org/up in Los Angeles, CA but since 2 of those members have been resigned of their positions and also they are no longer members. I say it’s a victory because it’s rare that churches are corrected when they do acts that are opposite of Jesus Christ in which I’ve been through/going through personally. A new visitor showed up that day too who could’ve been a potential future member. Mrs. Alex Marshall-Brown who is an actress and stunt woman was very professional and still offered to help the church. They had her to come back for a round table discussion without the 2 men present where she spoke professionally, politely and with humility. They issued an apology
Video link here: https://youtu.be/Gh979HGB9hISt paul 1st.lutheran church reprimand a black woman for sitting on their lawn
92 year old black woman kicked out for not tithing.
https://youtu.be/w2B3mER5lwc92 year old black woman kicked out of her church go
Church numbers dropping
https://youtu.be/u3YKSU_La7AChurch numbers dropping
Yes it’s hurts https://youtu.be/vTPiqx2HRJg
#blackwoman #alexmarshallbrown #kickedout Church services page
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Topic: “Love the sinner, hate the sin,” is not scriptural in the Bible and I do not practice this either and you can review my reasons here.
Let’s talk about a phrase that some people is scriptural. It is not scriptural! Love the sinner, hate the sin. If we focus on hating the person’s sin then wouldn’t it make sense to label them as sinners? Mark 12:21 says we are to love our neighbors as ourselves. Who is our neighbor? Everyone.
So if you’re labeling other’s as sinners then you believe that you are better them and you that sets yourself up to take God’s place.
So are you labeling people as sinners instead of seeing them as your neighbor? You are judging their sims which is God’s place.
For 1) I believe thatJesus does not support “Hate the sin, love the sinner.” In fact, it’s the opposite of everything Jesus said – like, love the sinner, period. Actually, he took away our permission to call people sinners and said, love your neighbor. Also, everyone is your neighbor. If we want to hate sin, then hate your own sin.
2) And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
3) Jesus tells us several times not to judge. He even says don’t even think about getting between God’s children and God. I believe that He makes that clear.
Gandhi does not even support “Hate the sin, love the sinner.” Written by him , (in his 1929 autobiography). “Hate the sin and not the sinner is a precept which though easy enough to understand is rarely practiced, and that is why the poison of hatred spreads in the world.”
Hmmm so Gandhi is not endorsing this position but saying it’s impossible to do! And so it is.
I bet you can ask anyone on the receiving end of being loved while their sin is hated. They’ll tell you it’s the same as being hated… for the exact reasons Gandhi wrote: because it’s virtually impossible to love someone but hate their sin.
So then we get caught up in judging them, then we feel self-righteous compared to them, we won’t just let it be. Let’s leave it between them and God, but when you continue to bring it up as if you never din… the poison of hatred spreads in the world, like Gandhi said.
: “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” Gandie
Then we have our “favorite sins” in Christians circles that are even “Pulpit approved.” ( pastors and churches leaders raise up these “sins” as virtues to be acquired.)
The sin of pride is called “healthy self-esteem.
The sin of The sin of national idolatry is called “patriotism.
The sin of over eating or gluttony, “I love so & so’s cooking… I was born with an eating disorder & etc.
Here’s the bottom line: If you love someone, you love all of them — even the lifestyle choices that might have resulted from sinful actions and behavior.
This does not mean you have to agree with what they do, but instead, you simply view the things in their life that you don’t agree with the same way you view all the sinful habits and choices you make in your own life.
One of my personal favorite saying’s is, “Don’t judge me because you sin differently than I do.”
How do you want people to view you and your sin? You want to be loved while others withhold judgment.
This also is how you should view others who do things, say things, or live in ways that you think are “sinful.” Just love them, and withhold judgment.
Seriously if you really want to start judging some sin somewhere, start with yourself & stop pointing out what you think is the sinful behavior in other people, and instead, work on the stuff in your own life.
God loves us all so much that He doesn’t want anyone to perish so why do we or why are we not willing to help restore them?
1) You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2)Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3)So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?
11) Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister or judges them speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. 12) There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?
2 Peter 3:8-1
Chapter 8) v 1) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
V 9) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Leviticus 19:18 states, “You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against any of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD.”
V 30) And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
V 31) And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these
31) Do to others as you would have them do to you. 32) “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33) And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34) And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35) But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36) Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
***Do not disown relationships before you have presented them to the master of restoration who is the author and finisher of our faith.
He knew troubles would come and he knows how he will fix them. Have faith in God; all things are possible.***
30) And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
31) And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
32) And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
33) But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
34) And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
35) And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
36) Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
37) And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.
So Just LOVE!
I’ll leave you with the following;
“Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.”
Philippians 4:8 (KJV)
Author Ven J. Arnold
This is very important and I listed several scriptures to back up my stand about love the sinner,bhate sin is not scriptural as far as I’ve researched thus far. These devotions or bible study’s that I write are in no way saying that I am a good example of what it is right & just in my Father’s eyes because I’m not. See as in Romans 3:23, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Also Isaiah 53:6) All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. And, 1 John 1:8
King James Version
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Dear Heavenly Father, I confess that I’m in bondage to sin and cannot free myself.I have sinned against you in thought, word, and deed, by what I have done and by what I have left undone. I have not loved you with my whole heart; I have not loved my neighbors as myself. For the sake of your Son, Jesus Christ, have mercy on me. Forgive me, renew me, and lead me, so that I may delight in your will and walk in your ways, to the glory of your holy name. Amen In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Author Ven J Arnold
Will it ever end? Wishing I was just having a night mare that I’m fixing to wake up from..
The said person still does not know which awful sin or crime that was committed to deserve such a LETTER OF MEMBERSHIP RELEASE, in fact the said person had crime done to her, so she tells me.
Below taken from PUBLIC DOMAIN.
___________________________________ Obviously the pastor has no right to suspend a member simply because the member has disagreed with him, for example in some matter of church polity where the Word of God has not spoken.
[Pastors] corner, relishing and delighting in it like pigs that roll in the mud and root around in it with their snouts. This is nothing else than usurping the judgment and office of God, pronouncing the severest kind of verdict and sentence, or the harshest verdict a judge can pronounce is to declare somebody a thief, a murderer, a traitor, etc. Whoever therefore ventures to accuse his neighbor of such guilt assumes as…
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Topic: Short story that I wrote.
If we do not forgive another person then will God send us to hell??
This is rather detailed & lengthy so I’m going to break them up into different post directly lined up. I also have a short story that I wrote that’s based on a real situation but extra has been added & names changed. Here’s just a small peek then I’ll copy it in full on 1 post on down the line.
“Once upon a time, in a former church, a Pastor lost his temper & unjustly kicked me out of the church. For those that don’t me, I’ve always forgave easily. There’s a saying, ‘forgive but don’t forget,’ but when I forgave,
I did forget all the bad,(probably the reason I keep getting the wrong end of the stick). Their were 3 that I’ve found it hard to forgive. Now out of those 3 people, I’ve only forgiven 2 of them although they did me very wrong and this time I don’t think I’ll ever forget the bad. The 3rd person I have not forgiven and I don’t if I ever will.” (That was the sneak peek).
Where does this idea originate that God will not forgive us and we will go to hell if we don’t forgive? It is a result of misunderstanding when the Old Covenant of living under law ended and when the New Covenant of living under grace began. See next post for more as I get them done.
#forgiveness #godlywoman #Followposts. I’ll get the next 1 started after I’ve had some rest then after I get some more work done.
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