LCMS, CULTS, CHURCHES & More by Author Ven J Arnold

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I believe that l will from now on, identify as a ‘none.’ I can’t see myself ever attending a building that claims to be a church again.

Those denomination’s that claim that Martin Luther is their founder and mentor are not even about Martin Luther as they claim. The effectiveness of using force to create change versus reward to induce changes in belief and behavior, shows how significant percentages of people will actually change their political ideology among other things. In others words, if the pastor/cult leader manipulates the congregation to keep repeating mindless songs and ridiculous liturgies often enough, the congregation will finally believe what they are saying and the pastor becomes their god. “Public compliance,” according to Festinger, will produce a “subsequent change in private opinion.
For example, there is an entirely different approach to religion when saying to the congregation, “The Lord be with you,” and the congregation responding, “And also with you,” versus the pastor shouting, “Praise the Lord,” and the congregation shouting back, “Alleluia!”
“Do specific language codes have an influence on the thinking process? In principle, they can, and in certain instances they do. It’s been proven.

Luther Fought against the Changes in the Catholic Church:
And yet those who resist the changes and innovations of contemporary worship promoted by district Church Growth cult leaders are portrayed as ignorant, legalistic, and backward. Ironically, those who promote the changes in worship will claim Luther, the Reformer, as their mentor, when Luther’s entire career was actually aimed at stopping the changes and innovations promoted by the Catholic Church. For example: Lutheran churches have redone all of Luther’s work and applying apologetics to most of his work, veiws, books, statements and etc, even going so far to say that they reject this or that from Luther.
Luther says, “Who alone wants to recount the new kinds of saint veneration? Are not these innovations? Where were bishops and shouters who should not permit such innovations?”

“Here again, there was no one who could decry or even point out innovation. But Luther, who exposes and chastises such innovations, is [called] an innovator!”

“Even at that, the doctors in the universities helped along. They had nothing else to do than to devise new ‘opinions,’ one after another. One could not be a doctor with special honors unless one has brought forth something new.”

“But who stood up against innovations?”… For such shameless violation is not to be tolerated that whatever you choose must be known as an innovation and what you do not so choose must not be called an innovation.”

“It does not help you to pretend that one should do nothing new or change anything, for you have heard that this article is a novelty and that it is you who have unceasingly introduced false innovations and changes in Christendom. What is change according to God’s Word is no innovation. All customs must yield to it, no matter how good they may be, your own law says.”

Where was the vote in the Synodical Convention that gave district offices the right to encourage pastors to remove hymn books and the use of hymn books from their congregations? Here one must also note the total lack of examination and cavalier attitude by those who introduce changes into LCMS worship services and say, “There is nothing in the Bible that says we can’t make this change.” What about the LCMS Lutheran congratulations that use their choice of any bible they choose, then placing a bulk within the church for all members to use?
The moment one who exposes and chastises such innovations, as Martin Luther did is [called] an innovator(like Luther was called), a rebel, one who despiseshttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2950242198528461&id=2253944324824922&sfnsn=mo the preaching or says, “This is what worship must do or be,” the district office hollers “Adiaphora!” and the one who resists change is labled a legalist, an innovator. One definition does hold in the Church Growth cult, “Worship exists for the benefit of the cult leader.”
Read in Pro 24:21, My son, fear thou the Lord and the king: [and] meddle not with them that are given to change: 24:22 For their calamity shall rise suddenly; and who knoweth the ruin of them both?
God cannot deny Himself, that is, God cannot not be God.
The District Church Growth cult leaders have adopted the religion of nihilism and self destruction. If the definition of “A” is that “A” is free to change, then “A” actually never existed and has no real definition. Hence, so-called “traditional worship” never existed because it never had any real purpose or reason to exist.
Traditional worship as reformers overcame hurdles to make it possible again more than likely has never existed in the United States, although these churches claim, traditional worship.

So-called “contemporary worship” does not exist because it has no definition. The freedom to change worship and still call it worship means that “traditional” worship only existed as a matter of free choice or accident, and there is nothing to prevent it from changing. Hence, all Christian worship is a matter of random selection or accident. Worship exists in the fantasy of the worshipper without any basis in reality.
The LCMS, in my opinion tends to be ever changing. Also there are many examples where they state, that they take no stance on certain social issues, instead of following God’s Word.

There may be no perfect body of believers that get it all right but there are some that chooses to stick to the Word of God instead of man-made creeds, statements and guidelines.

I will never judge another as to where their soul will spend eternity. This whole world is filled with God’s creation from different cultures and areas of the world that are strange to another. So what gives me or anyone else the right to judge or assume that just because my culture is strange to them and they don’t perceive thing’s as I do that they’re going to hell? NO, GOD IS THE JUDGE AND HE LOVES US THAT HE’D RATHER NOT HAVE ANYONE PERISH!

25 Luecke, Dr. David, “The Other Story of Lutherans at Worship,” Community Joy, Fellowship Ministries, Tempe, Arizona, 1995, page 6.

26 “Luther’s Works” American Edition, Muhlenberg Press, Philadelphia, 1960, Vol. 34, Page 24

27 ibid., p. 25

28 ibid., p. 27

29 ibid., p. 29

30 ibid., p. 39

31 ibid., p. 39

“It has been my experience that I am always true from my point of view, but am often wrong from the point of view of my honest critics. I know that we are both right from our respective points of view. And this knowledge saves me from attributing motives to my opponents or critics. The seven blind men who gave seven different descriptions of the elephant were all right from their respective points of view, and wrong from the point of view of one another, and right and wrong from the point of view of the man who knew the elephant. I very much like this doctrine of the manyness of reality. It is this doctrine that has taught me to judge a Mussalman from his own standpoint and a Christian from his. Formerly I used to resent the ignorance of my opponents. Today I can love them because I am gifted with the eye to see myself as others see them and vice-versa.”

– Gandhi(1)

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
Mahatma Gandhi
Tags: christianity, christians, jesus-christ #cults

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#videos LCMS Church gets angry over black woman sitting in their lawn.
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Very Temperamental pastor, Steven Anderson
https://youtu.be/1idFK3eQ7V8Angry Pastor

Alex Marshall-Brown was mistreated at St Pauls Lutheran Church LCMS at https://stpaulsfirst.org/up in Los Angeles, CA but since 2 of those members have been resigned of their positions and also they are no longer members. I say it’s a victory because it’s rare that churches are corrected when they do acts that are opposite of Jesus Christ in which I’ve been through/going through personally. A new visitor showed up that day too who could’ve been a potential future member. Mrs. Alex Marshall-Brown who is an actress and stunt woman was very professional and still offered to help the church. They had her to come back for a round table discussion without the 2 men present where she spoke professionally, politely and with humility. They issued an apology
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Video link here: https://youtu.be/Gh979HGB9hISt paul 1st.lutheran church reprimand a black woman for sitting on their lawn

92 year old black woman kicked out for not tithing.
https://youtu.be/w2B3mER5lwc92 year old black woman kicked out of her church go

Church numbers dropping
https://youtu.be/u3YKSU_La7AChurch numbers dropping

Yes it’s hurts https://youtu.be/vTPiqx2HRJg

#blackwoman #alexmarshallbrown #kickedout Church services page

I will never judge another as to where their soul will spend esternity. This whole world is filled with God’s creation from different cultures and areas of the world that are strange to another. So what gives me or anyone else the right to judge or assume that just because my culture is strange to them and they don’t perceive thing’s as I do that they’re going to hell? NO, GOD IS THE JUDGE AND HE LOVES US THAT HE’D RATHER NOT HAVE ANYONE PERISH!

Author Ven J Arnold
SacredInkedBlood

“It has been my experience that I am always true from my point of view, but am often wrong from the point of view of my honest critics. I know that we are both right from our respective points of view. And this knowledge saves me from attributing motives to my opponents or critics. The seven blind men who gave seven different descriptions of the elephant were all right from their respective points of view, and wrong from the point of view of one another, and right and wrong from the point of view of the man who knew the elephant. I very much like this doctrine of the manyness of reality. It is this doctrine that has taught me to judge a Mussalman from his own standpoint and a Christian from his. Formerly I used to resent the ignorance of my opponents. Today I can love them because I am gifted with the eye to see myself as others see them and vice-versa.”


Gandhi(1)




“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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“HOW IT FEELS TO BE EXCOMMUNICATED”

I have never excommunicated a person before, not even for breaking any of The Ten Commandments or for any other sins such as gossiping, cheating, divorce, and etc… . Otherwise, I wouldn’t have a congregation left.”

Rev. Paul L. Beisel

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I tell ya, it is Church discipline that punishes the very ones who need love, compassion, encouragement and deserve respect because they are very hard working in the church and are known as being “too honest,” but it protects the very ones who should be disciplined.”

Author Ven J Arnold
“My real life story about the church.”
THE PASTOR WAS
VERY CLEAR THAT
NO MATTER WHAT
I DO FROM HERE ON
OUT THE CHURCH WILL
NOT RESTORE ME!
Martin Luther himself was excommunicated by the
Church.
Lutheranism also has an excommunication process,
but some denominations & congregations NO LONGER
use it. Excommunication is
the most serious ecclesiastical penalty levied against a
member of a religious organization!
I’ve searched & found where
so many people have
committed suicide after
being excommunicated from their church.
See they are at a dark place
& they see themselves as
useless trouble makers that
no longer have any hope.
It’s not because they said,
“hey, I’m going to commit
suicide because that’s so
much fun! No, they’re at a
place they never thought
they’d be at. So just keep shunning those that are
headed to that dark, hopeless state of mind & pat yourself
on the back if they take
their own life(sarcasm).

The Lutheran definition, in its earliest & most technical form,
is found in Martin Luther’s
Small Catechism, beginning at Questions No. 277-283, in “The Office of Keys.” Luther endeavored to follow the process that Jesus laid out in the 18th chapter of the Gospel of
Matthew. According to Luther, excommunication requires:

1. The confrontation between
the subject & the individual against whom he has sinned. (ME: DIDN’T HAPPPEN)
2. If this fails, the confrontation between the subject, the harmed individual, & 2 or 3 witnesses
to such acts of sin. (ME-didn’t happen)
3. The informing of the pastor
of the subject’s congregation. (Me: it was the pastor himself, acting on his own authority, without bringing it to anyone else’s or even confronting me
in a gentle way & in a private manner).
4. A confrontation between
the pastor & the subject.
(Me:That was the only & last confrontation, he
approached me yelling loudly
& angrily, put his hands on me then yelled at me, never to
come back & I was no longer a member)( very unbefitting for anyone especially a pastor & a pastor who was aware of my PTSD & health issues).

Many Lutheran denominations operate under the premise that the entire congregation (as opposed to the pastor alone) must take appropriate steps for excommunication. For ex. some churches sometimes require that a vote must be taken at Sunday services; some congregations require that this vote be unanimous.

“I tell ya, it is Church discipline that punishes the very ones who need love, compassion, encouragement and deserve respect because they are very hard working in the church and are known as being ‘too honest,’ but it protects the very ones who should be disciplined.”
by Author Ven J. Arnold #sacredinkedblood

It is vital that you stand firmly for compassion, not only for people on the outside of the church, but for the desperate
& needy within the very walls
of the church. It is crucial to the life & health of the church that you decry a lack of care in the body of Christ that your representative called “deplorable.”

It’s essential that you call out to churches to distinguish Biblical church discipline—such as in the case of egregious 1st Corinthians 5 types of sins from situations in which someone is grieving, desperate, & broken, the cases that call for practical help, for love & compassion, “the summation of all practical Christian living.”

Many of the most well
-respected leaders of conservative evangelicalism have been turning their backs
on the cries of the needy for years, & even exacerbating
their pain. Will they continue
in this?

And what will the rest of us do?
Or what will those of you do that were told to shun us?

This is what I am feeling
about being unjustly excommunicated,
( & now we’re to be shunned).
I feel deceived, betrayed,
lonely & demoralized. My panic attacks have come back at full force & the memory replays of how pastor looked, yelled, & put his hands on me, causing other flash backs, to the point I’m now easily startled when I hear a man’s voice that’s loud, or when someone approaches me offgaurd, & of noises. I flinch or jump even if it’s my husband raising his hand or makes a
quick movement. Sometimes I feel anger, but more often I experience gut wrenching
sobs & tears. Sometimes I feel that I’d like to see them pay for this, (vengeful), even the closing of that building but that doesn’t last long. I’m always confused about it, wondering how come I’m in the dark, why are other’s going a long with this & why after being loyal for 14 years?
I feel extremely distressed like I’m reliving a nightmarish experience repeatedly, even though I try my best to get the memory out my head. Isolated, unwanted, weak & inadequate. Then I go from that to well it doesn’t matter what I do now,
so I might as well live like the devil, himself. I sleep very little but when I do I have nightmares, usually about pastor & the devil at the end of my bed or sleep paralysis. I feel worthless & useless but then I have some feelings of optimistic joy
because I think in the future,
I’ll be better for it & realize it
was a blessing. God will always love me. Sometimes I’m so exhausted for no reason &
I don’t have any energy or joy in even going outside with my flowers & critters. I know that
in the future, I’ll identify as a ‘none’ & I’ll never trust to join another religious organization. Then I blame myself & say but if I would’ve reacted differently- only causing me to hate myself. I’m so upset then upset at myself for being upset. Other’s have said to me, “How come everyone else has gotten over it & you can’t… Just move on… Just think about good things … change your mindset & stuff like that. I’m sorry because I can’t help it &
it is a very big deal to me. Now
if the pastor was suddenly to grant me forgiveness, (which
he’s already refused and said he would never), I still wouldn’t go back but it’s the point of it all. I expect that you really don’t understand & I can understand that but Idk if I’ll ever get over this. I sure won’t ever trust anyone who claims to be a Christian… never again. You can love, obey, have a relationship, fellowship with God & worship Jesus without being a labeled a Christian. AuthorVenJArnold

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LCMS- CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH IN PARIS, TN. Why don’t you just burn me at the stake?

Will it ever end? Wishing I was just having a night mare that I’m fixing to wake up from..

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The said person still does not know which awful sin or crime that was committed to deserve such a LETTER OF MEMBERSHIP RELEASE, in fact the said person had crime done to her, so she tells me.

Below taken from PUBLIC DOMAIN.
___________________________________ Obviously the pastor has no right to suspend a member simply because the member has disagreed with him, for example in some matter of church polity where the Word of God has not spoken.
[Pastors] corner, relishing and delighting in it like pigs that roll in the mud and root around in it with their snouts. This is nothing else than usurping the judgment and office of God, pronouncing the severest kind of verdict and sentence, or the harshest verdict a judge can pronounce is to declare somebody a thief, a murderer, a traitor, etc. Whoever therefore ventures to accuse his neighbor of such guilt assumes as…

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Will God send you to hell if you do not forgive someone?(This will be done in different segments).

Topic: Forgiveness.
Topic: Short story that I wrote.
If we do not forgive another person then will God send us to hell??
This is rather detailed & lengthy so I’m going to break them up into different post directly lined up. I also have a short story that I wrote that’s based on a real situation but extra has been added & names changed. Here’s just a small peek then I’ll copy it in full on 1 post on down the line.
“Once upon a time, in a former church, a Pastor lost his temper & unjustly kicked me out of the church. For those that don’t me, I’ve always forgave easily. There’s a saying, ‘forgive but don’t forget,’ but when I forgave,
I did forget all the bad,(probably the reason I keep getting the wrong end of the stick). Their were 3 that I’ve found it hard to forgive. Now out of those 3 people, I’ve only forgiven 2 of them although they did me very wrong and this time I don’t think I’ll ever forget the bad. The 3rd person I have not forgiven and I don’t if I ever will.” (That was the sneak peek).
Where does this idea originate that God will not forgive us and we will go to hell if we don’t forgive? It is a result of misunderstanding when the Old Covenant of living under law ended and when the New Covenant of living under grace began. See next post for more as I get them done.
#forgiveness #godlywoman #Followposts. I’ll get the next 1 started after I’ve had some rest then after I get some more work done.
#churchhurt #neveragain #hypocrites

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